The Art and Science of Difficult Conversations

Because when we communicate better, we live better. Join Chris Wong and Lucie Tesarova as we navigate the conversations most people avoid.

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About the Show

Welcome to The Art and Science of Difficult Conversations, the podcast that takes you on a transformative journey through the world of interpersonal communication. We roleplay real scenarios, dissect how not to handle hard conversations, and offer concrete guidance for navigating them with finesse.

Each episode dives into real situations — workplace conflicts, family tension, friendships under strain — illustrating the common mistakes we all make and the strategies that actually work.

Tune in and transform your interactions for the better. 

HOSTED BY CHRIS WONG AND LUCIE TESAROVA

Lucie Tesarova is the founder of MindFittery, a mental fitness gym for leaders, their teams, and families. With 3,900+ hours coaching leaders and teams in tech, finance, and HR, she helps people say the hard thing without losing the relationship, or themselves.
Chris Wong is an executive coach, licensed therapist, and leadership strategist who helps purpose-driven leaders lead through chaos, build high-performing cultures, and master difficult conversations. He’s the founder of Leadership Potential, co-host of The Art and Science of Difficult Conversations podcast, and is on a mission to end accidental leadership.

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Resources and Downloads

Episode companions, worksheets, and links we reference on the show.

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Difficult Conversations Playbook for Leaders

A free 10-page workbook that will help you prepare for and navigate the hardest conversations
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Saboteur Assessment

Take the Free Saboteur Assessment find about what is sabotaging you.
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Be a Guest on the Show

We're always looking for thoughtful guests with real stories. Pitch yourself in under two minutes.
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Quick Development Plan Template

A free one page template you can use to structure employee development. Feel free to use or modify however you need
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